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</table>ATOMIhttp://nuclear-heritage.net/index.php?title=Journey:Diskussion_ueber_einen_Brief_an_TVO&diff=59390&oldid=prevFalk: gorleben link added2011-10-29T22:34:00Z<p>gorleben link added</p>
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</table>Falkhttp://nuclear-heritage.net/index.php?title=Journey:Diskussion_ueber_einen_Brief_an_TVO&diff=56018&oldid=prevAntonia at 10:18, 11 October 20102010-10-11T10:18:00Z<p></p>
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</table>Antoniahttp://nuclear-heritage.net/index.php?title=Journey:Diskussion_ueber_einen_Brief_an_TVO&diff=4014&oldid=prevFalk: +cat2008-10-27T19:27:59Z<p>+cat</p>
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</table>Falkhttp://nuclear-heritage.net/index.php?title=Journey:Diskussion_ueber_einen_Brief_an_TVO&diff=1611&oldid=prevFalk: Diskussion ueber einen Brief an TVO was moved to Journey:Diskussion ueber einen Brief an TVO2008-07-01T11:26:49Z<p>Diskussion ueber einen Brief an TVO was moved to Journey:Diskussion ueber einen Brief an TVO</p>
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</table>Falkhttp://nuclear-heritage.net/index.php?title=Journey:Diskussion_ueber_einen_Brief_an_TVO&diff=1529&oldid=prev84.191.21.55: /* Entwurf des Briefes */2007-03-10T10:31:04Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Entwurf des Briefes</span></span></p>
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</table>84.191.21.55http://nuclear-heritage.net/index.php?title=Journey:Diskussion_ueber_einen_Brief_an_TVO&diff=1528&oldid=prev84.191.21.55: /* Entwurf des Briefes */2007-03-10T10:30:52Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Entwurf des Briefes</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>we would like to thank you for hosting us at Olkiluoto and offering us an overview of your activities at the nuclear power plants, the new construction, and the planning of the final repository.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>we would like to thank you for hosting us at Olkiluoto and offering us an overview of your activities at the nuclear power plants, the new construction, and the planning of the final repository.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We, however, would like to express, that as we came the whole way from Germany and invested time and money, we had expected more from our visit. We had arranged for a visitation and besides the nuclear power plants had expressed special interest in the construction site of the final repository and the site of the existing repository. It was confirmed to our partners at Luontoliitto that we would be shown around at Olkiluoto. These arrangements were bluntly ignored when we came, neither were we able to see anything other than the visitors center, nor were we even told about this change of plans. It was not mentioned, except when individuals from our group asked about the possibilities of being shown around. On asking each one was given a different explanation why this supposedly was not possible. </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We, however, would like to express, that as we came the whole way from Germany and invested time and money, we had expected more from our visit. We had arranged for a visitation and besides the nuclear power plants had expressed special interest in the construction site of the final repository and the site of the existing repository. It was confirmed to our partners at Luontoliitto that we would be shown around at Olkiluoto. These arrangements were bluntly ignored when we came, neither were we able to see anything other than the visitors<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">' </ins>center, nor were we even told about this change of plans. It was not mentioned, except when individuals from our group asked about the possibilities of being shown around. On asking each one was given a different explanation why this supposedly was not possible. </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We acknowledge that you organised for lecturers who normally don't work in the visitors' center. Their presentations, however, were rather unprofessionel in several ways. First of all we were never told about the timetable and the changed plans compared to the arrangements. Then Mr. Kätkä gave a rather poor presentation. It shows a not too high regard of the visitors to present slides in Finnish to an international group, not to mention that the slides were old and some were soiled. He additionally seemed to expect little background knowledge among the visitors, keeping the presentation rather general and talked in an educational tone giving his disputatious philosophy on energy usage, which was not exactly what we had come for. We know these general arguments from publications and although not agreeing with most of them we didn't see a point in discussing them in this context, as the time was short. Unfortunately this general presentation even took far more than the scheduled time. It was rather disrespectful towards Mr. Koskinen to steal his time and not even to remember the name of the colleague. This had the effect that the topic of final reposition which was our special interest was only covered very roughly. The already existing storage of low and medium level waste, which was another topic we had expressed special interest in, when arranging the visit, was only mentioned. The second lecturer, Mr. Koskinen, had obviously been better prepared - unfortunately he had not enough time for his presentation and a deepening discussion. It seemed that this had more of a potential to cater for our interests, but as the timetable had not been properly presented to us, it was not clear to us at that point, that the second lecture would fall out so short, or we would have interrupted Mr. Kätkä to ask for Mr. Koskinen's presentation.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We acknowledge that you organised for lecturers who normally don't work in the visitors' center. Their presentations, however, were rather unprofessionel in several ways. First of all we were never told about the timetable and the changed plans compared to the arrangements. Then Mr. Kätkä gave a rather poor presentation. It shows a not too high regard of the visitors to present slides in Finnish to an international group, not to mention that the slides were old and some were soiled. He additionally seemed to expect little background knowledge among the visitors, keeping the presentation rather general and talked in an educational tone giving his disputatious philosophy on energy usage, which was not exactly what we had come for. We know these general arguments from publications and although not agreeing with most of them we didn't see a point in discussing them in this context, as the time was short. Unfortunately this general presentation even took far more than the scheduled time. It was rather disrespectful towards Mr. Koskinen to steal his time and not even to remember the name of the colleague. This had the effect that the topic of final reposition which was our special interest was only covered very roughly. The already existing storage of low and medium level waste, which was another topic we had expressed special interest in, when arranging the visit, was only mentioned. The second lecturer, Mr. Koskinen, had obviously been better prepared - unfortunately he had not enough time for his presentation and a deepening discussion. It seemed that this had more of a potential to cater for our interests, but as the timetable had not been properly presented to us, it was not clear to us at that point, that the second lecture would fall out so short, or we would have interrupted Mr. Kätkä to ask for Mr. Koskinen's presentation.</div></td></tr>
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